I have been reading and learning about sourdough baking for three months and this is the first time I have seen the proper ratio of starter to flour to water for the feeding of the starter. This method for maintaining sourdough starter is just one of many you might choose to follow. That’s great. You mention previously it should have a loose fitting lid. Is there a significant rise even if it’s not quite doubled? It will be ready to bake … Repeat as necessary, every 12 hours, until you notice the starter doubling or tripling in volume in 6 to 8 hours. After using 8 oz of starter in the recipe, I’m left with 4 oz of starter, exactly the right amount for feeding. I would discard 2 oz so you’re left with 6oz. It will pick up wild yeast from your environment and give them a safe, happy place to grow. Does the starter have to be stored with a lid on or just a loose covet. The main thing to remember is that you always feed with equal weights of starter-water-flour. Cover the bowl and let rest at room temperature for 8-12 hours. It’s 4oz in starter and I add in 4oz of flour and 4oz of water. each time and discard and then add that or add to the starter without discarding what I have in container? Pull out my starter from fridge 2. Add the water and flour. Just use the discard (4oz) to create a new starter and maintain until you can deliver it. A week later take out that 4oz from the fridge building it back up to 12oz, bake, and repeat. Allow the starter to rest at room temperature (about 70°F) for at least 2 hours; this gives the yeast a chance to warm up and get feeding. Glad its explained here, thank you for asking 🙂, Your email address will not be published. Have you been feeding with equal weights of starter-water-flour? The good news is, you can use this excess starter in any of the following sourdough starter discard recipes. You can build up your starter over a few days. I write all my sourdough recipes to use 8 oz of active starter. Frozen or dried starter will need several feedings to rejuvenate. I’m a novice. If you want a play it safe option, we suggest that you test your next bake out with a different type of flour. Here are the amounts listed for feeding Sourdough Starter. I don’t really measure when I feed the started I add about 3/4 cup of flour and then enough water to make it like a pretty thick pancaker batter. No problem, use the amount of starter called for in the recipe. It will get a chance to grow and rise before being added to a larger combination of ingredients for bread. Brand new to sourdough starters and your blog is serving as my life line. I am using one cup water to one cup of flour when feeding it of which the recipe called for. Since you’ve got your starter fed, peruse the entire list of My Best Sourdough Recipes. Have fun! Remove 1 cup starter to bake with when it's expanded and bubbly, then feed the remaining starter immediately; revert to your normal 12-hour schedule for subsequent feedings. I leave it out everyday in the kitchen on top of the fridge and feed it once a day. In the mornings it has a soft pink colored liquid on top which I just stir back into the batter. After I make the dough, I feed the starter a couple of times and put it in the refrigerator. I would like to make sourdough bread and pretzels the same day. Many thanks. If I’m making a 2-day recipe (most of mine are) I take the starter out of the refrigerator early in the morning of the day I’m making the dough. So I got a starter from a friend and I baked with it and then fed it…. Once your starter is bubbly and active, you have fresh sourdough starter! Now let’s see how to feed & maintain your sourdough starter. Right off the bat I’m going to say that there are a million ways to feed, maintain and use a sourdough starter. The way I manage my starter is to use, feed, use, feed, sleep, repeat. Feed the remaining to bring back to 12 oz. The starter gets combined with 65 grams of organic all-purpose flour and 65 grams of distilled water. Discard the extra starter (see note). Then weigh out 4 oz of the remaining starter for feeding and discard the rest. In fact, I just tried to activate and after 8 hours, it failed the float test. For instance, if your recipe calls for 1 cup (about 8 ounces) starter, add 4 ounces each water and flour. A healthy, mature starter should be bubbly and double in 8 hours. Do you feed 1:1:1 by weight or by volume? But this is not always the case. If you’re starting a brand new starter from scratch, it will need 7 to 10 days before it’s ready for bread baking.The first four to five days will be spent getting your starter active and bulking it up. There may be a bit of light amber or clear liquid on top. of starter then add 8 oz. It’s linked where she wrote “Sourdough Rye Bread” 🙂. You are quite welcome. If you’ll be gone really long-term, put the starter into the freezer or dry it. Yes. The recipe calls for 100% hydration starter. Did you make it or did someone give it to you? Because of the lack of availability of bakers yeast, I’ve started experimenting with sourdough. How long does it take until it develops that more liquid texture? When I first got a sourdough starter, it was unclear if what I had acquired was a gift or an old-timey curse. I don’t know if I was supposed to feed it or not before using. This is my first time making starter so it is trial & error for me. Then, daily you will feed this baby sourdough starter. Feed remaining 4 back to 12oz 4. My favorite Danish rugbrød whit this starter is always amazing, with beautiful texture and incredible aroma, the dough is ready to bake after just 3 hours. The amount of starter you feed depends on how much bread you usually make, but this is the basic formula: To a scant 1/4 cup (1.75 ounces/49 grams) starter… I am going to outline for you how I maintain my sourdough starters. 8g of water and 10g of flour. Your email address will not be published. To store your starter in the refrigerator: Take the starter out of the fridge. Give it a float test to make sure it’s active. So instead of letting the dough rise overnight in the refrigerator, you can leave it for 2 days. Feed refrigerated starter weekly. Add the flour and lukewarm water to the remaining starter. Generally, about 5-6 hours after feeding my starter is ready. Add the flour and water and mix until combined. If you have a wet or stiff starter you just need to account for that when mixing the dough. Each time you feed the starter you take out 4 oz of the unfed starter and combine it with 4 oz of flour and 4 oz of water. In your feeding instructions next to the 4oz measurements it is 112g for starter and flour, however the water reads 120ml. I want to make sure I understand this discard correctly because I was given a small amount and am trying to work up to storing a larger starter (LOVE your small starter page btw). If the starter is inactive I feed it right away and it should be ready by early afternoon. Hi Cheryl, If you see pink or orange streaks in the starter you should discard it and start over. If you go more than about 2 weeks between feedings, you might want to give the starter 2-3 feedings before using. Sometimes, if it’s only been a few days since my last bake, I won’t discard the 2 oz and will just go ahead with the 3 oz feeding. For selling, consistency is key. I personally, wouldn’t push it that far. If you are feeding with more flour the starter will be more solid. That’s a great answer for, me, too! Looking for tips, techniques, and all kinds of great information about sourdough baking? I’m new to sourdough baking. That means it's strong enough to leaven bread. Great resource. I had this EXACT question with the starter instructions i’m following! I am almost 80 and have been making bread and cooking for countless years for a family of 6(4 hungry children). Why are you discarding 2oz to have 18oz? Your starter needs to be fed about 1x per week if refrigerated, and every day if left at room temperature. I make 6 loaves of bread twice a week. Glad you having fun with sourdough. If you want to do a double bake in one day you could remove the 4 oz and feed. Use "discard" starter to make pancakes, waffles, cake, pizza, flatbread, or another treat; see our recipes for discard ("unfed") starter. Sourdough Starter Feeding Instructions Measure starter kept at room or remove ¼ cup starter from a refrigerator. I read your page and I think I’ve unbalanced it. But I can see it collapsing as it doubled a couple of hours ago. Nothing wrong with that, but it may need to be fed more often. Basically, you want to keep a smaller starter so you have less discard. Yes, exactly. If not, give another feed and wait until tomorrow. February 4, 2020 by Eileen Gray 66 Comments. Track how long it takes to get active. I like how that comes through in the blondies. I started my sourdough journey in June and have now reached a level of comfort with my bread making and maintaining my starter. In fact, after you’re done reading this post, you should read through my instructions for How to keep a small sourdough starter to see of that method would work better for you. It should be ready to use first thing in the morning. My starter has finally doubled earlier this evening! Although, truth be told, I often go longer than a week between feedings and I haven’t killed it yet. Remove all but 4 ounces (1/2 cup) starter; see "tips," at left, for ideas on what to do with it. It will smell acidic, … Mine often thins out after being the fridge for a week or so. Once the starter is established I keep it in a plastic deli container with the lid fitted tightly. To store your starter at room temperature: Stir the starter well and discard all but 4 ounces (1/2 cup). Or, simply give your excess to a friend so he or she can create his or her own starter. I was recently given my starter (it’s been in her family for years) and I assumed I should feed 1:1:1. Required fields are marked *. The starter was alive and needed to be fed, I knew that. By morning is should be nice and active. To test this, place a piece of tape to mark your starter’s volume and then check back four hours after feeding it. If you keep the starter refrigerated just wait a day to feed it. Once stirred together, this mixture becomes my levain or, preferment. It still bubbles but isn’t as active as before. Read through this post about maintaining a small starter to see how it’s done. But once the starter becomes active in its early stages, it is useful for making recipes that don’t require as much leavening power , such as pancakes and waffles. Well, it might double and then begin to collapse without you noticing. I’ve got a bit of a niche question. I use a loose fitting lid when growing the starter. Does the starter have to be stored with a lid on or just a loose cover. Thanks! Sourdough bread can only be baked once the sourdough starter has become strong enough. Honestly, I’ve gone longer than a month without feeding my starter and I haven’t killed it yet. So 100% means the starter is fed with equal weights of flour and water. To feed your starter, take 30 g of the starter and put it in a new jar. Have fun! Hi, I’ve just started my sourdough starter journey. How much flour and water do I use and also can I keep it on my kitchen counter as I intend to bake on week ends. A starter that hasn’t been fed for weeks will be quite sluggish and your dough won’t be as lively. If you’re not sure if the starter is active, drop a dollop into a bowl of water to see if it floats. There is actually a well regarded sourdough baker on YouTube that keeps his starter at room temperature and ONLY feeds it before a bake. Which means that his starter sits in a hungry state sometimes for a week or more and he makes beautiful bread. Let it rest at room temperature for about 12 hours, until bubbly. To maintain your starter at 100% hydration it is best and most accurate to weigh your ingredients. A Sourdough Schedule . I look forward to hearing from you!! Copyright © If you do, why not just refrigerate the entire starter then take it out the next day and use what you need and feed the starter then? I enjoy your website and recipes. Nov 12, 2020 LIVE from Bake with Jack "Studios" Oct 22, 2020 Bread Tip 147 - The Natural Sourdough Life Cycle; Oct 15, 2020 Bread Tip 146 - The BAGEL PRINCIPLE; Oct 8, 2020 A New Chapter of Bake with Jack; Oct 1, 2020 Bread Tip 145 - Dough Scrapers Hello I just started making sourdough bread in March when I couldn’t find yeast. I have a starter that is bubbly, is nearly overflowing the jar on day4 which seems early to me. King Arthur Unbleached All-Purpose Flour - 3 lb. add it to many other recipes as a flavor and texture enhancer. Kind regards, Danny. You’ve created a living batter filled with wild yeast. Discard 8oz bc it’s likely gone dormant (correct?) Check out these recipes that use sourdough discard if you don't want to throw it away. I just got a starter from a friend that has been doing this a year. I need some help. Do you already have a starter? The previous comment about the 18 oz of starter is specifically for someone who was interested in doing a double bake in one day. I tend to have a fairly relaxed attitude towards the process. You’ll have a total of 18oz. If the starter has the texture of a very thick pancake batter it’s probably a 100% hydration starter. The process is very similar to feeding a starter to keep it active, except that it requires two separate feedings. 3. Pink or orange streaks indicate bad bacteria has grown in the starter. When you are ready to refrigerate your starter in the glass quart jar, do you screw the lid on or do you leave it loose? You mix together flour and water and then let it rest at room temperature. It rises about 25% from what I can see. To store your starter at room temperature: Stir the starter well and discard all but 4 ounces (1/2 cup). If you appreciate this detailed information, I’d really appreciate a 5-star review. But there are plenty of folks who keep a wet starter that is more water than flour and some people keep a stiff starter that is more flour than water. Today is day 6 so I am going to feed every 12 hours but not sure if I remove .4 or 8 oz each time. Happy Baking! this post about maintaining a small starter. 112g will also read 112ml on the scale. so I need to make sure that I have enough sourdough starter. If your starter was fed a day or two before, it’s possible to use the starter straight from the refrigerator. Grab the kids for an impromptu science experiment when you test your sourdough starter in water. The refrigerator slows down the fermentation. I am confused. If you're a more casual sourdough baker, store your starter in the refrigerator, feeding it just once a week. Set aside at room temperature. For folks who bake every day or several times per week, the starter will remain active and the 8 oz that is removed can be used right away for baking. It would possibly work. For context I now want to stick it in the fridge so I can revert to weekly feeding times. If you haven’t made your starter yet, visit this post to see how to make a sourdough starter from scratch. Was told to feed once a week. Good morning, people who know everything are not always good teachers. If you feed equal weights of starter-flour-water the texture will be similar to a very thick pancake batter. The hands-on time is just a few minutes. Add 1 cup (4 ounces) whole-wheat or rye flour into a very clean 1-quart jar along with 1/2 cup (4 ounces) warm tap or filtered water between 65 to 80 degrees F. Stir well until all … If you’re just a little bit off every time you feed, eventually, your starter could be thrown out of balance. This is called feeding a starter to expand it for bread baking. 2) Do I remove and add 4 or 8 oz when feeding 3) Is my starter ok even though runny and has the pinkish fluid on top? Is it ok to leave out until the starter is active and established rather than store in fridge? For the final feeding prior to baking, add enough flour and water to use in your recipe, with a little left over to feed and maintain the starter for the next time you bake. Just stir that water back into the starter before feeding. Hi, I read you have to keep starter in a container with a tight fitting lid so I’ve been using a kilner jar. Cheryl. Once the starter is established I keep it with a fitted lid. However, I would like to have a more sour taste to the rye than with the white bread. Use that fed starter to bake a sourdough recipe within the next day. Read this post about growing your starter and you can also read this post about keeping a small starter. 2) The amount you discard when feeding depends on your own schedule. Will It Float? I have begun to experiment and have since made your soft white sandwich loaf and donuts. Thanks so much in advance! I would keep feeding it until it’s quite active. 3) No, If it is really pink then it should be discarded. I made your overnight cinnamon buns and was so thrilled when they rose and filled the pan without added commercial yeast. and is always fed with equal weights of starter-flour-water. Should this not be also 112g? I have a dumb question…When feeding a starter, do I need to measure 4 oz. This put it in simple terms I can come back to if I need extra help! But first I’m going to give you all the how’s and why’s and try to answer any questions you might have. You feed it just enough to make your levain, use that levain in your bread, then leave the scrapings in the jar to inoculate the next loaf. A few people were looking to understand the process. It’s called “hooch” and don’t worry, your starter is still alive. https://honestcooking.com/bread-beast-baking-sourdough-starter The way I have my starter recipe written you should always have 12 oz of starter as your base. I use the Bake with Jack recipe for the starter and the loaf itself (very worth a read). Hi Katherine. I just don’t want to ruin my starter. Use the weekly sourdough starter maintenance schedule if you plan to bake once or less per week.. Once a week, remove the jar of starter from the fridge and let it come to room temperature on the counter.Discard all but 25 grams that you will put into a clean jar. You’ll see day by day photos and notes on the activity and smell. A long cool rise encourages more acetic than lactic acid in the dough. In that case you must to discard the 8 oz of starter because it’s not active enough for baking. I've maintained the same sourdough starter for years, refreshing it with 20g mature starter, 100g flour (usually a mix of 50% white flour and 50% whole rye or 50% freshly milled whole wheat), and 100g water1 twice a day, every day. Since I don’t bake every day, I keep my starters (yes, I have 3) in the refrigerator. To ready your refrigerated starter for baking: Take the starter out of the fridge, discard all but 4 ounces (1/2 cup), and feed it as usual. If you do not have enough starter yet, continue feeding and building up more starter. The starter should have doubled in volume and started to recede and/or pass the float test. I have an heirloom starter, but it seems VERY runny. The percent expresses the relation of the amount of liquid to the flour. But it’s become watery, doesn’t double and separates within 24 hours. By out of balance I mean that it’s not made up of equal weights of water-flour (100% hydration). Add 60 g lukewarm water and swirl until the starter is diluted in the water. Four steps walking you through what a sourdough starter is, how to make a starter from just flour and water, getting your starter ready to bake with, and how to maintain it without hiring a nanny Let me see if I can answer your question. If you note that the volume has doubled four hours after feeding it, your starter should be ready for baking. This is great info. The amount of sour in a sourdough is about how to ferment the dough. Since my starter had in the refrigerator, unfed, for a week the flavor was pungent and sour. My starter has a very sweet smell. You may be pretty consistent if you have a good eye for how the starter should look when you feed it without measuring. Let me know if you have any other questions. If I feed the starter at night should I leave it out overnight to use to make dough in the morning? For example, pour a little bit of your starter out into a bowl and give it a feeding with a new flour. When your starter is bubbling and increasing in volume its ready to bake bread with. To the starter … The starter is ready to use when it has doubled in volume and a small spoonful floats when dropped into a bowl of water. I was getting really confused about where my discard would come from if I maintained 12oz but I THINK I get it now… If I want to maintain 12oz but will probably only bake once a week I would… 1. If you’re looking to have less discard you might want to try keeping a small starter. If the liquid is clear or even a darkish gray that just the “hooch” and it ok. It works for me and I think my approach can work for you if you don’t bake bread every single day (and even if you do). But I have found that giving the starter 2 feedings before making the dough results in a more active dough. I take my starter out of the refrigerator once a week for feeding, even if I’m not baking. I have found that if I refrigerate my starter and then take it out within a day or two it is still good to use without feeding. Baking Parchment Paper - Set of 100 Half-Sheets. The instructions for activating your sourdough starter and maintenance feedings, call for discarding all but ½ cup starter before each feeding. Thanks for any clarification. If I plan to bake within a day I leave it out. Yes, you could use about 1/3 rye and 2/3 white. Question : can I claim my sour dough starter as a dependent on my taxes? After about 2 hours, refrigerate. But since it’s already active I would go ahead and get baking. Or do you have to use it that same day? At the end of the post you’ll find a how-to card that lists the ingredient amounts and steps to follow each time you feed your starter. How do you know if your starter is out of balance? Hi Eileen, I have tried to start my sourdough 3 times now. This discard gives you even more delicious things to make in the kitchen! As an Amazon Associate and member of other affiliate programs, I earn from qualifying purchases. I use 3 cups of starter for a batch of 6 loaves. Would it be possible to take the leftover active 4oz (after removing the 8oz for baking), and put that 4oz directly into the fridge. I am learning very useful information, thanks. Thanks for all the info. Mix until smooth, and cover. I then leave it out for a couple of hours to give the yeast time to get going. Everything I’ve made has been overly dense, which leads me to believe that it’s not active. 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